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  1. OK — have been messing about with this thing for something like a few months now and it’s basically bookmarked at this point, so figured I’d write something up since a mate asked me the other day. Am based in the UK, mainly stick to footie and the horses, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    How I found it was genuinely embarrassing — I could never work out what an ew payout actually came to when the place terms changed. I used to just eyeball it and then be surprised. Now punch the numbers in first, every time, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — you drop in stake and odds and you get the return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles maths, lucky 15s, a yankee, and that’s where I’d always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it lives at kelly criterion — free, no signup.

    One thing that actually changed how I bet were the more serious tools. There’s an probability calculator that shows the overround, and there’s the kelly staking tool — I run quarter kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutching one is handy too when I’m covering two or three runners.

    It’s not perfect mind. The interface looks very functional, let’s say — no polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine although the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. And nothing on the app store, just the site — fine by me but worth saying.

    Anyway. Doesn’t cost anything, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. If anyone even now does the maths on paper, try it — it’s saved me plenty of arguments with the bookie.

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    How I found it was honestly a bit daft — I could never work out what an e/w return would be when the place terms changed. I’d just guess and then be surprised. Now stick my stake in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator is the part I open most — you put in the price and your stake and it shows returns straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the multiples — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, and that’s where I’d always got it wrong. If you want a look, it’s here lucky 15 ew calculator and it’s free with no account nonsense.

    The thing that genuinely shifted things for me is the geekier extras. There’s an implied probability thing and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, plus a kelly staking tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is terrifying. Dutching calculator is handy too if I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. Its design is pretty plain — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine although the bigger tables are a squeeze. There’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but worth saying.

    So yeah. Free, no ads shoved in your face, works. If anyone honestly works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — saved me a fair few “wait, that’s it?” moments.

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  7. So — have been messing about with this thing for something like four months now and it’s stuck on my phone, so thought I’d chuck my thoughts in since a mate asked me the other day. Am based in the UK, generally bet football and racing, nothing mad, so take it how you like.

    The reason I started using it was honestly pretty stupid — I never could get my head round what an ew return would be once you get five places instead of three. I’d just eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. Now I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — you put in your stake, the odds and it spits out profit and total return instantly, either odds format. It also handles the fiddly ones — acca and treble returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, yankees, and that’s where I always mess it up. If you want a look, it’s over at kelly staking calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    One thing that really changed how I bet is the more serious bits. There’s an implied probability converter which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly criterion tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. The dutching one gets used a fair bit for when I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. The layout is pretty plain — not much polish, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s fine although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. There’s no proper app, it’s browser only — fine by me but you asked.

    So yeah. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, works. If anyone even now does the maths on paper, try it — saved me a load of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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    What got me on it was actually a bit daft — I could never get my head round what an each way return would be once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d guess and moan when the payout landed. Now punch the numbers in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator tool is the one I use most — type in stake and odds and it shows the return instantly, fractions or decimals. There’s also the fiddly ones — acca and treble returns, lucky 15 and lucky 63, a yankee, which is where I always mess it up. If you want a look, it’s over at betting super heinz and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    One thing that actually changed how I bet were the more serious tools. The odds-to-probability thing which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly tool — I use half kelly because full kelly is far too aggressive. The dutch tool gets used a fair bit when I’m spreading across selections.

    Couple of gripes. Its design feels pretty plain — no flash, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it works although the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. And nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — doesn’t bother me but worth saying.

    So yeah. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, works. If anyone honestly does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a fair few dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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  16. Right — been on this thing for maybe a few months now and I keep coming back, so thought I’d say something since a mate asked me the other day. Am UK based, mainly do football and horses, nothing mad, just so you know where I’m coming from.

    The reason I started using it was actually embarrassing — I could never work out what an ew payout would be once you get five places instead of three. Basically I’d guess and moan when the payout landed. Now I punch the numbers in before I place anything, even a simple single bet.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the one I’m on daily — you put in your stake, the odds and you get profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, and that’s where most people I know lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it’s here trixie betting calculator — free, no signup.

    What really changed how I bet was the geekier tools. The probability converter which shows you the overround, and there’s the kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is decent for when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. The design feels a bit basic — no frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On mobile it’s usable although the lucky 63 breakdown are a squeeze. Also there’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — slight shame but you asked.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, no ads shoved in your face, does what it says. Anyone who even now does the maths on paper, try it — saves me a load of arguments with the bookie.

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    How I found it was honestly a bit daft — I could never work out what an each way payout actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I used to just wing it and then be surprised. Now I punch the numbers in before every slip, even a simple single bet.

    The single bet calculator is the one I’m on daily — you drop in stake and odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the multiples — trebles returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, honestly that’s where most people I know lose track. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at treble calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    The thing that really shifted things for me were the nerdier extras. They’ve got an implied probability converter that shows what margin’s baked in, and a kelly criterion calculator — I run quarter kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutching one is decent when I’m spreading across selections.

    Couple of gripes. Its layout looks very functional, let’s say — not much polish, it’s clearly function over form. On my phone it’s fine but the lucky 63 breakdown need a bit of scrolling. And no app, it’s a website and that’s it — slight shame but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Costs nowt, not plastered in adverts, does what it says. If anyone honestly works out returns on a calculator app, give it a go — it’s saved me a fair few arguments with the bookie.

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    The reason I started using it was honestly a bit daft — I couldn’t ever work out what an ew return actually came to with 1/5 odds a place. Basically I’d wing it and then be surprised. These days I type the odds in before I place anything, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator is the part I use most — you drop in stake and odds and you get the return straight away, fractions or decimals. Same tool covers the fiddly ones — trebles returns, lucky 15s, patents and yankees, and that’s where I always mess it up. Have a go yourself, it’s here each way yankee calculator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    The thing that genuinely changed how I bet was the nerdier tools. They’ve got an implied probability thing that shows how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is far too aggressive. The dutch tool is handy too for when I’m spreading across selections.

    Not all sunshine though. The interface feels pretty plain — no flash, looks like it was built by someone who cares more about maths than colours. Phone-wise it’s usable though the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. Also there’s nothing on the app store, just the site — slight shame but worth saying.

    Anyway. Costs nowt, barely any ads, works. If you still adds it up in their head, give it a go — it’s saved me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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    The reason I started using it was actually pretty stupid — I never could get my head round what an ew payout actually was with 1/5 odds a place. I used to just guess and get a shock. Now I stick my stake in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator tool is the bit I’m on daily — you drop in the price and your stake and it spits out the return instantly, fractions or decimals. There’s also the multiples — doubles and trebles returns, a lucky 15, a yankee, and that’s where I’d always got it wrong. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at 49s patent lottery bet calculator — free, no signup.

    What really shifted things for me is the geekier extras. The odds-to-probability thing and it makes obvious how much the bookie’s taking, and there’s the kelly criterion tool — I run quarter kelly as the full version is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is handy too for when I’m splitting a race.

    Not all sunshine though. Its layout is very functional, let’s say — no frills, it’s clearly function over form. Phone-wise it works although the bigger tables are a squeeze. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s browser only — slight shame but you asked.

    Right, that’s me. Doesn’t cost anything, barely any ads, does what it says. If you even now works out returns on a calculator app, have a look — saves me plenty of dumb bets I’d have regretted.

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    What got me on it was honestly embarrassing — I couldn’t ever get my head round what an each way payout actually came to when the place terms changed. I’d just wing it and moan when the payout landed. Now I stick my stake in before I place anything, even the boring singles.

    Their single bet calculator is the one I open most — you put in stake and odds and it spits out profit and total return with no faffing, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. Same tool covers the multiples — doubles and trebles returns, a lucky 15, patents and yankees, and that’s where most people I know got it wrong. If you fancy a poke about, it lives at bet calculator patent and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    What genuinely made a difference is the nerdier bits. The implied probability converter and it makes obvious the overround, and there’s the kelly staking calculator — I run quarter kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. Dutching calculator is handy too if I’m spreading across selections.

    Couple of gripes. Its interface looks a bit basic — not much frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. On mobile it works though the acca grid need a bit of scrolling. Also there’s no app, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me just flagging it.

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    The reason I started using it was genuinely pretty stupid — I never could work out what an e/w return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I used to just guess and get a shock. These days I stick my stake in before I place anything, even a straight one-selection punt.

    Their single bet calculator is the one I’m on daily — type in stake and odds and it spits out the return instantly, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. Same tool covers the bigger stuff — doubles and trebles returns, lucky 15s, yankees, which is where most people I know lose track. Have a go yourself, it’s here accumulator and there’s no login wall, which I appreciated.

    The thing that actually made a difference was the more serious extras. There’s an probability converter which shows you what margin’s baked in, plus a kelly staking tool — I stick to fractional kelly since full stakes are far too aggressive. The dutching one gets used a fair bit if I’m covering two or three runners.

    Couple of gripes. Its design is very functional, let’s say — zero frills, which honestly I don’t mind but some will. Phone-wise it works but the bigger tables need a bit of scrolling. There’s no app, it’s browser only — fine by me just flagging it.

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    The reason I started using it was genuinely embarrassing — I never could work out what an each way return actually came to once you get five places instead of three. I’d just eyeball it and moan when the payout landed. Now type the odds in before every slip, even the boring singles.

    The single bet calculator is the part I use most — type in stake and odds and it spits out returns straight away, fractional or decimal, doesn’t matter. There’s also the multiples — trebles returns, a lucky 15, yankees, and that’s where I always mess it up. If you fancy a poke about, it’s over at spread betting calculator — free, no signup.

    One thing that really changed how I bet is the geekier bits. They’ve got an odds-to-probability calculator which shows you how much the bookie’s taking, and a kelly calculator — I run quarter kelly because full kelly is a quick route to a dead bankroll. Dutching calculator is handy too if I’m covering two or three runners.

    It’s not perfect mind. Its design feels pretty plain — no polish, it’s clearly function over form. On mobile it’s fine though the acca grid make you pinch and zoom. There’s nothing on the app store, it’s a website and that’s it — fine by me but worth saying.

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